Confidential Talk (USA)
March 24, 1987 – March 2008
Damascus (USA) x Confidentiality (USA), by Lyphard (USA)
Family 1-x
March 24, 1987 – March 2008
Damascus (USA) x Confidentiality (USA), by Lyphard (USA)
Family 1-x
Foaled in the same crop as his champion “nephew” Rhythm, Confidential Talk was a Grade 2 winner but was not quite good enough to justify his retention as a stallion prospect for the Phipps family at Claiborne Farm, already home to Private Account. (A multiple stakes winner by Damascus and out of Confidentiality's dam Numbered Account, Private Account was already a well-established stud success.) Thus, Confidential Talk was exported to Argentina, where he added to the family reputation for producing good sires by siring at least two champions and a number of Group 1 winners.
Race record
6 starts, 4 wins, 1 second, 0 thirds, US$106,720
1990:
Assessments
Rated at 112 pounds on the Daily Racing Form's Free Handicap for American 3-year-old males of 1990, 15 pounds below champion Unbridled.
As an individual
A bay horse; no further information available.
As a stallion
According to records kept by The Jockey Club, Confidential Talk sired 372 winners (53.7%) and 31 stakes winners (4.5%) from 693 named foals.
Sire rankings
Per El Turf (www.elturf.com):
Per Great Thoroughbred Sires of the World (2006, Churchill, Reichard, and Rogers):
Per the Stud Book Argentino (https://www.studbook.org.ar/):
Notable progeny
April Talk (ARG), Croassant (ARG), Cutlas (ARG), Idilica (ARG), La Espadilla (URU), Lignify (ARG), Pomarola Talk (ARG), Silzal (ARG), Situado (ARG)
Notable progeny of daughters
Le Blues (ARG)
Connections
Foaled in Kentucky, Confidential Talk was bred and owned by Ogden Phipps. He was trained by Shug McGaughey. He was exported to Argentina following his racing career and entered stud there in 1991 at Haras Vacación. From there, he was transferred to the Brazilian stud Haras Calunga in 2004. From there he moved to another Brazilian stud, Haras Bage do Sul, where he stood from 2007 until his death from equine protozoan myoencephalitis in March 2008.
Pedigree notes
Confidential Talk is outcrossed through five generations. His dam Confidentiality is a half sister to 1983 Beldame Stakes (USA-G1) winner Dance Number (by Lyphard's sire Northern Dancer), dam of 1989 American champion 2-year-old male Rhythm (by Mr. Prospector), Grade 3 winner and important broodmare Get Lucky (by Mr. Prospector), the good Maryland sire Not for Love (by Mr. Prospector), and Oscillate (by Seattle Slew), dam of 2006 Argentine champion sire Mutakddim (by Seeking the Gold). Confidentiality is also a half sister to multiple Grade 1 winner and important sire Private Account; to the good Maryland sire Polish Numbers (by Danzig); and to Secret Asset (by Graustark), dam of 1989 Gran Premio del Jockey Club e Coppa d'Oro (ITY-G1) winner Assatis (by Topsider), English Group 3 winner Warrshan (by Northern Dancer), and Group 2-placed English stakes winner Razeen (by Northern Dancer; champion sire in India at least six times).
Confidentiality and her siblings are out of 1971 American champion 2-year-old filly Numbered Account (by Buckpasser), a full sister to multiple Grade 2 winner Cunning Trick and stakes winner How Curious. Numbered Account is also a full sister to Playmate, dam of 1985 Irish champion 2-year-old male and important sire Woodman (by Mr. Prospector); to Special Account, dam of English Group 2 winner Gallant Special (by Gallant Romeo) and stakes winner Gallant Sister (by Vigors) and second dam of seven stakes winners including multiple Grade 2 winner Anguilla and Grade 3 winner Tresoriere; to The Cuddler, dam of multiple stakes winner Verification (by Exceller); and to Fascinating Trick, second dam of multiple Grade/Group 1 winner Redattore (a champion sire in Brazil) and Italian Group 2 winner Grey Way.
Last updated: December 14, 2022
Race record
6 starts, 4 wins, 1 second, 0 thirds, US$106,720
1990:
- Won Jamaica Handicap (USA-G2, 8.5FT, Monmouth)
Assessments
Rated at 112 pounds on the Daily Racing Form's Free Handicap for American 3-year-old males of 1990, 15 pounds below champion Unbridled.
As an individual
A bay horse; no further information available.
As a stallion
According to records kept by The Jockey Club, Confidential Talk sired 372 winners (53.7%) and 31 stakes winners (4.5%) from 693 named foals.
Sire rankings
Per El Turf (www.elturf.com):
- 9th on the Argentine broodmare sire list in 2012.
Per Great Thoroughbred Sires of the World (2006, Churchill, Reichard, and Rogers):
- 3rd on the Argentine general sire list in 1997; 9th in 2000.
Per the Stud Book Argentino (https://www.studbook.org.ar/):
- 3rd on the Argentine general sire list in 1997; 9th in 2000.
- 6th on the Argentine broodmare sire list in 2010; 7th in 2009; 8th in 2008; 9th in 2011 and 2012.
Notable progeny
April Talk (ARG), Croassant (ARG), Cutlas (ARG), Idilica (ARG), La Espadilla (URU), Lignify (ARG), Pomarola Talk (ARG), Silzal (ARG), Situado (ARG)
Notable progeny of daughters
Le Blues (ARG)
Connections
Foaled in Kentucky, Confidential Talk was bred and owned by Ogden Phipps. He was trained by Shug McGaughey. He was exported to Argentina following his racing career and entered stud there in 1991 at Haras Vacación. From there, he was transferred to the Brazilian stud Haras Calunga in 2004. From there he moved to another Brazilian stud, Haras Bage do Sul, where he stood from 2007 until his death from equine protozoan myoencephalitis in March 2008.
Pedigree notes
Confidential Talk is outcrossed through five generations. His dam Confidentiality is a half sister to 1983 Beldame Stakes (USA-G1) winner Dance Number (by Lyphard's sire Northern Dancer), dam of 1989 American champion 2-year-old male Rhythm (by Mr. Prospector), Grade 3 winner and important broodmare Get Lucky (by Mr. Prospector), the good Maryland sire Not for Love (by Mr. Prospector), and Oscillate (by Seattle Slew), dam of 2006 Argentine champion sire Mutakddim (by Seeking the Gold). Confidentiality is also a half sister to multiple Grade 1 winner and important sire Private Account; to the good Maryland sire Polish Numbers (by Danzig); and to Secret Asset (by Graustark), dam of 1989 Gran Premio del Jockey Club e Coppa d'Oro (ITY-G1) winner Assatis (by Topsider), English Group 3 winner Warrshan (by Northern Dancer), and Group 2-placed English stakes winner Razeen (by Northern Dancer; champion sire in India at least six times).
Confidentiality and her siblings are out of 1971 American champion 2-year-old filly Numbered Account (by Buckpasser), a full sister to multiple Grade 2 winner Cunning Trick and stakes winner How Curious. Numbered Account is also a full sister to Playmate, dam of 1985 Irish champion 2-year-old male and important sire Woodman (by Mr. Prospector); to Special Account, dam of English Group 2 winner Gallant Special (by Gallant Romeo) and stakes winner Gallant Sister (by Vigors) and second dam of seven stakes winners including multiple Grade 2 winner Anguilla and Grade 3 winner Tresoriere; to The Cuddler, dam of multiple stakes winner Verification (by Exceller); and to Fascinating Trick, second dam of multiple Grade/Group 1 winner Redattore (a champion sire in Brazil) and Italian Group 2 winner Grey Way.
Last updated: December 14, 2022